Zoe Nicholson is used to playing the long game when it comes to women’s rights. The writer and activist is interviewed throughout Still Working 9 to 5, a new documentary following up on the fight for women’s rights 40 years after Dolly Parton, Lily Tomlin, and Jane Fonda’s smash-hit 1980 film 9 to 5.

Known for being a key advocate for the Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) — a proposed amendment to the U.S. Constitution that would have invalidated several state and federal laws that discriminate against women if it had passed — Nicholson told the MovieMaker podcast how she stays motivated in the fight for equal rights for all genders during a conversation with Still Working 9 to 5 co-director Camille Hardman and Gary Lane, and Lane’s twin brother and producer, Larry Lane.

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Still Working 9 to 5